Thanos wasn't right but the Avengers was wrong for bringing everyone back after 5 WHOLE YEARS without the public knowing what they were gonna do

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I kinda think that's the issue with superheroes no one really talks about. They take matters into their own hands without the thoughts or opinions of the public at large.

But also, it's not that kinda story, kid.

Edit: Word change. Changed options to opinions. Typo.

maybe marvel is back, cuz what?

What? They literally didn't have a choice bro. If they told people earlier what they were doing, they would have been giving potential false hope, which is much worst, and if they didn't use them immediately afterward, they'd have most likely lost the chance to ever do it again since in most world Thanos win anyway

Announcing it would have been a mistake if they were unsuccessful.

Are you seriously saying ‘the dead people didnt give consent to be brought back to life’?

I’m sorry but that is a ridiculous thing to say imo. Yeah it causes some complications for the people who survived, but for the 4 billion people who didn’t, it’s LITERALLY life or death. You’re saying you’d rather 4 billion people who were unjustly genocided stay dead than the other 4 billion people have some inconvenience in their lives.

I agree that what they did would have some negative consequences (housing problems, family problems, etc), but the good WAAYYY outweighs the bad

Unquestionably, but that was Tony's price. You could call him selfish – Mr. Spock would disdain his choice to put the good of the few over the many – but it's hard to fault the man wanting to save his child.

That said, given that it's literally called The Infinity Gauntlet, I'm not sure why it was a binary option. Why couldn't he have had his cake and – eaten? – it too?

Is there any reason the Gauntlet couldn't stitch his personal 5 years – and his daughter – into the past?

Should of waited 5 years irl. Make movies inbetween, adds more cost/value

Wrong by which moral school of philosophy?

I’m not seeing many that it would apply

It’s just in utilitarianism, moral absolutism , certainly moral in deontology, also in virtue ethics and moral realism

I suppose you could say moral consequentialism would offer a good rebuttal

I feel like there’s a lot of grey area with that decision to bring everyone back. I’m sure there were folks in universe that would’ve loved to have their people back.. and others who thought Thanos was right. But to die on the hill that the avengers were in the wrong is kinda crazy IMO.

I think you're weird.

Imagine if they told the public their plans and then failed

Suddenly dropping 4-5 billion more people that need water and food, in world that had grown accustomed to only feed and house 4 billion. It would create food and water wars overnight, the amount of death and starvation would be biblical.

What’s your stance on Oliver Queen from DC who was on an island for so many years then returns to his family that moved on. Should he have stayed on the island as well?

Rather than calling them insensitive or ethically/morally wrong, I think it's fair to say they were selfish and the world suffered for it. It also benefited from it. It also could have spelled the doom for the entire planet, as opposed to half, without the Eternals getting involved. It's *messy*.

Does wanting their loved ones back mean they were wrong to do what they did? It's an interesting question to pose that has more than one answer.

The team (and it's future members/associates) itself represents some of that trauma inflicted on the world, too.

Cassie gets her dad back, Wanda is pulled from oblivion to find herself without Vision, Natasha is forever lost to Yelena, and Peter's life is radically altered. I'm sure there are other examples out there but those four immediately popped into mind.

Also, it wasn't just Earth. The entire universe, if I'm not mistaken, had half it's life restored. I can't fathom the chaos it all caused.

The logistics were simply too large and the plan was a complete hail Mary. They had no idea if it would work and informing an already strained to the brink society that three and a half billion people were about to come back would have been more dangerous than not informing them, not to mention the other planets.

If they'd announced it, who is to say an interested party wouldn't try to attack Avengers compound because they benefited from the blip? Some Russian general who got promoted because the President disappeared?

I agree with OP


I still don't understand why they didn't just make a wish that "I wish Thanos never got the gauntlet". Seems easy enough.

Does anyone know what Thanos meant when he said to Tony Stark "You're not the only one cursed with knowledge" I was wondering did thanos meet a version of tony stark somewhere in the multiverse that was either superior Iron-man or Doctor Doom.
And I wish i could have seen thanos fight the novacorp infinity war.

I think this has got to be some kind of troll post. No it was not unethical in the least to bring back the lives that were wrongly stolen from people by Thanos. All the Avengers did was right that wrong. And the Avengers were right not to go public with their plan. "Hello people of the world/universe, we plan to use time travel to obtain magic colorful space rocks to snap our fingers and poof everyone back into existence." It sounds crazy and it would be better not to get people's hopes up in the event that they fail

I imagine people would be happy that their loved ones came back from the dead.

They couldn’t tell the public they might bring the blipped people back, and I don’t think they were wrong, but it is definitely more of a gray area than people think.

Many had probably moved on, some maybe saw their lives improve, and I mean technically Thanos saved half of Earth by preventing a celestial from hatching out of it and killing all life. The avengers reversed all of that, and jeopardized all of time and space by time traveling, because THEY couldn’t move on even 5 years later. Their actions are obviously noble, but they are also somewhat fueled by guilt, because they didn’t get the job done the first time. It is what makes the Thanos line “You couldn’t live with your own failure”, so damn cold.

I think in a perfect world, the multiverse saga would’ve really explored the idea of maybe the avengers should’ve just lived with their failure? Otherwise why make the time span 5 years, instead of just 6 months?

Hopefully we get some of that with Doom and incursions.

I don't think they were wrong but I can see the potentional problems. Imagine the insane amount of paperwork!